From the Strictly Beats C-Box
5 Mar 09, 22:48
marley marl: yo **** all these dilla wannabes, why not post some actual hip hop?5 Mar 09, 22:48
I would say wow, but it's not a surprising sentiment.
Obviously I have something to say about this.
First of all - No one wants to be J Dilla. Dilla's dead, homey. Me, I like it up here above ground. The sun comes out sometimes...
Second - To every fool out there who thinks they're from the south bronx because they started watching yo mtv raps in the early 90's but they grew up in a suburb in east cleveland, fifty blocks from the ghetto or something, and now think they know everything about hip hop, what is and isn't - Give it a fucking rest. I don't get paid to make beats, fine. Stop acting like you get paid to talk about them.
Third - and this is the thing that really galls me - people who make beats need to stop talking this kind of bullshit; If you know your craft, really know it, then you should know better. If I sample the same David Axlerod joint as someone else, that beat is gona have some similar quality. One of Dilla's things was taking a sample and not really fucking with it too hard, just treating it with some compression (Usually La-2a's [If you don't know what that is, like I said, you need to know yr fucking craft]) and adding either a brake loop or (more often) some raw drum samples. You can almost always hear the difference between individual drum samples played on an mpc 2000 and a loop - The mpc has a very particular groove to it.
So, to sum up? Shut the fuck up. All this "Dilla Shit" is really just people going back to that early-mid 90's Boom Bap and grit. Half the shit people are saying is "Dillaish" could just as easily have come off of KRS's Self Titled from 96, or from Cuban Linx for that matter. Beat making is Mind+Matter+Technique. What you get is what you get. If you make a hot beat do you erase it if it sounds too much like "Dilla Shit"?
And don't even get me started on how all these fools are talking sideways about Dilla with Kanye's cock in they mouth.
5 comments:
word up. its like cats walk some type of higher path where it's cool to like something(dilla in this case)until everyone else likes it too. then all of a sudden, its not cool anymore. but of course if someone doesn't like it, people will call you a dumbass? huh? nevermind.
i think what i meant is, some people just want to disagree.
YES!!!!!!!YOU ARE 100% ON POINT WITH THIS! CAN I FUKIN CO-SIGN THIS SHYT OR WHAT???
NICE!
It's no big deal, but Dilla didn't use an mpc2k (only a 60,3000 and a korg) so you've kinda ruined your own argument.
As for not 'fucking with samples too hard' - really? I would say that he was one of the heaviest sample choppers around. He was famous for his drums, and it wasn't 'cos they were 'brake loops'.
Don't get heated, I reckon you should just relax on it all.
I'm not sure what I was so steamed about here. A lot of this shit is a mystery. I was having a bad time with my wife and drinking a lot of Scotch regularly, which makes me pretty salty.
That said, I've seen pics of dilla with a 2000, not an xl mind you, the classic. I've seen video of him playing with one. Although... I'm not at all sure why it matters. Anon here is totally right that I needed to relax on it all. I'm doing that now.
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